Q       Did you have a talk with "Lefty" Williams one or two days after the World's Series was over?

A       I had a talk with Mr. Williams the night after the World's Series was over, that day.

Q       In Chicago?

A       Yes, sir.

Q       Where?

A       I think it was in the Warner Hotel.

Q       What talk did you have with Williams at the time?

A       Mr. Williams came in my room and held out a couple of envelopes and said, "Here, do you want on of these?" I said, "No, what is it?" He pushed it over to me again. I said, "Go on: what is it that you got?" He told me; "Why," he says "it is money." I says, "I don't want your money." He said it was part of what he got in a frame-up with some eastern gamblers and they had used my name.

Q       Who had used your name?

A       Cicotte and Gandil.

Q       And Williams?

A       And Williams.

Q       Did you give him permission to use your name?

A       No, sir.

Q       At any time?

A       No, sir.

Q       Did you know before that time that your name had been used by Williams with the gamblers?

A       Not up to that time, no sir.

Q       Or by Cicotte or Gandil?

A       Or by Cicotte or Gandil.

Q       What did you say to Williams then?

A       I told him they had a lot of nerve. I don't know just the word I used, but "Big bums" or something, to be out pulling that of stuff on me, knowing that it was the only way I had of making a livelihood.

Q       What else?

A       We had a few hot words there, and he was drinking, and I walked out of the room. As I was going I told him I was going down to see Comiskey about this in the morning. So the next morning I went down to Comiskey's office to see him and tell him all about it.

Q       What did you do when you got down there?

A       I got to the office there, and the front door was always locked, and they got a solid window there, and when a ball-player wants to talk to Grabiner or Comiskey, you have to knock on the window.

Q       And they raise it up for you?

A       Yes sir.

Q       Did you knock on the window this day?

A       I knocked on the window this day.

Q       Who came to the window?

A       Harry Grabiner.

Q       He is the secretary of the defendant corporation?

A       Yes, sir.

Q       What did you say to Grabiner?

A       I told Grabiner I wanted to see Comiskey.

Q       What about?

A       He said Comiskey was busy and I couldn't see him, and I said "It is important that I see him, some information that I got out of Williams in regard to the World Series", and he slammed the window down in my face and said, "Go on home, we know what you want."

Q       And did you see Comiskey at that time?

A       No, sir.

Q       Did you leave Chicago the next day for your home in Savannah?

A       Within the next day or two, I wouldn't say it was the next day.